Comments on: Ben's Notebook: Marriage? http://thenewgay.net/2009/04/marriage.html For Everyone Over the Rainbow Fri, 25 May 2012 01:14:58 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.3 By: ry http://thenewgay.net/2009/04/marriage.html#comment-11861 ry Sat, 02 May 2009 09:51:49 +0000 http://thenewgay.net/?p=5729#comment-11861 I'm not all that into the fact that gays can marry. Sure I guess it's OK for those people who feel the need. But the reality is 91% of gays share that they themselves don't feel the need to do the ceremony and certificate thing. It's just not them and it's more than just the gays with this mindset. ALL my str8 friends now share with me in the idea that living together is fine, it's the marriage piece that typically ruins the fun for everyone. I like the line from str8 people that goes: "Why not let gay people marry? They deserve to be as miserable as we are." How true. Sex in general is pure recreation these days. Something Americans look at now and have an expectation to have the right to freely have sex for fun. If you want to be celibate get yourself a monogamous relationship/marriage. If you want to have sex then live the way the gay community tells you! Otherwise don't complain about the choice you made to stay stuck. I’m not all that into the fact that gays can marry. Sure I guess it’s OK for those people who feel the need. But the reality is 91% of gays share that they themselves don’t feel the need to do the ceremony and certificate thing. It’s just not them and it’s more than just the gays with this mindset. ALL my str8 friends now share with me in the idea that living together is fine, it’s the marriage piece that typically ruins the fun for everyone. I like the line from str8 people that goes: “Why not let gay people marry? They deserve to be as miserable as we are.” How true. Sex in general is pure recreation these days. Something Americans look at now and have an expectation to have the right to freely have sex for fun. If you want to be celibate get yourself a monogamous relationship/marriage. If you want to have sex then live the way the gay community tells you! Otherwise don’t complain about the choice you made to stay stuck.

]]> By: Kyle http://thenewgay.net/2009/04/marriage.html#comment-11366 Kyle Wed, 15 Apr 2009 02:21:19 +0000 http://thenewgay.net/?p=5729#comment-11366 In principle I am all for gay marriage. Nothing brings the point home for me more than the thought of a man in a hospital unable to be with his lover, while his fundamentalist family makes medical decisions for him - hell, they could even make psychiatric decisions (e.g., reparative therapy) for him if he is deemed sufficiently incapacitated. In my heart, however, my enthusiasm is admittedly less, as my own prospects for marriage seem thinner than the thought of a dream about wisp of smoke. This really is an issue whose support calls for some altruism from many people in our community. In principle I am all for gay marriage. Nothing brings the point home for me more than the thought of a man in a hospital unable to be with his lover, while his fundamentalist family makes medical decisions for him – hell, they could even make psychiatric decisions (e.g., reparative therapy) for him if he is deemed sufficiently incapacitated.

In my heart, however, my enthusiasm is admittedly less, as my own prospects for marriage seem thinner than the thought of a dream about wisp of smoke. This really is an issue whose support calls for some altruism from many people in our community.

]]> By: Ben64 http://thenewgay.net/2009/04/marriage.html#comment-11360 Ben64 Wed, 15 Apr 2009 00:09:09 +0000 http://thenewgay.net/?p=5729#comment-11360 Ben, I share your ambivalence on this issue. I have also realized that marriage, if legal, is not compulsory; it does not enjoin our participation. Years ago my initial reaction to this issue was that marriage should be abolished altogether and replaced with domestic partnerships for all, regardless of sexual orientation. As if that could happen. Ultimately my knowledge of ancient and medieval marriage practice made it easier to assimilate the idea (anything by John Boswell is worth reading). If you haven't read this already you might like <i>Lesbian and Gay Marriage through History and Culture</i> by Paul Halsall... <a href="http://www.quackit.com/html/tags" rel="nofollow">http://web.archive.org/web/20000818060409/http://www.bway.net/~halsall/lgbh/lgbh-marriage.html</a> Ben, I share your ambivalence on this issue. I have also realized that marriage, if legal, is not compulsory; it does not enjoin our participation.

Years ago my initial reaction to this issue was that marriage should be abolished altogether and replaced with domestic partnerships for all, regardless of sexual orientation. As if that could happen. Ultimately my knowledge of ancient and medieval marriage practice made it easier to assimilate the idea (anything by John Boswell is worth reading).

If you haven’t read this already you might like Lesbian and Gay Marriage through History and Culture by Paul Halsall…

http://web.archive.org/web/20000818060409/http://www.bway.net/~halsall/lgbh/lgbh-marriage.html

]]> By: ejacksonindc http://thenewgay.net/2009/04/marriage.html#comment-11311 ejacksonindc Tue, 14 Apr 2009 03:45:58 +0000 http://thenewgay.net/?p=5729#comment-11311 I hate to break this to you man, but if you are asking yourself these questions, you've been bitten. Plus, you need to have kids so there will be generations of little Ben's giving people crap in the name of freedom, liberty, and having a low threshold for BS. I hate to break this to you man, but if you are asking yourself these questions, you’ve been bitten. Plus, you need to have kids so there will be generations of little Ben’s giving people crap in the name of freedom, liberty, and having a low threshold for BS.

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