Comments on: Prop 8: WTF Do We Do Now?

By: virtualredhead

virtualredhead — Fri, 14 Nov 2008 16:42:00 +0000

Great post. I don't know whether to laugh or cry when I read some of the wingnut reactions to Prop 8 protests and boycotts--It is kind of hilarious to listen to them get so hysterical, but then it's tragic once you realize how many people actually buy that crap.

Case in point, the terrifying glitter siege on a Michigan church: Glitter by the bucketload? Why, god, WHY?

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Fri, 14 Nov 2008 06:17:00 +0000

Not sure about the Mormon suggestion – or if really was a suggestion – but otherwise, I’m there. Can you send a more official version of this proposal to someone at HRC?

As someone totally keen on the grassroots suggestion – as well as leadership, but I’m no leader – I think it’s really important to identify why certain communities voted for Prop 8. What does it mean to be gay in these communities? What happens to people who are gay in these communities? Where is the support? Is there support? Are educated, middle/upper-class professionals the only people who can be out and proud? There are so many layers that really need to be thought out and understood.

By: Phil

Phil — Thu, 13 Nov 2008 20:59:00 +0000

hey, nice post. you brought up some good points about what we can do, especially about knowing our leaders. this movement could benefit greatly from strong leaders, at both the grassroots and larger levels. (and really, the HRC just isn’t doing it for me). how do we get these leaders to emerge?

you should watch out what you say about mormons. “I mean, Mormons. Mormons are the stalwarts for traditional “one man and ONE woman” marriage? Mormons?” A while back the Mormon church split. This split created Mormons in the LDS Church (or those we live near or see on television) and Mormon fundamentalists (those that live in caves or huge, private ranches). The LDS members severely outnumber the fundamentalists, and have completely disavowed polygamy (for a very long time). So, the Mormons who voted for Prop. 8 actually ARE stalwarts for a monogamous marriage. You shouldn’t clump all mormons together as polygamists.

…That didn’t really have a lot to do with your argument, I know.

By: Sam

Sam — Thu, 13 Nov 2008 17:27:00 +0000

I’m considering strapping on a glitter-bomb belt and martyring myself on the steps of the Mormon temple.

By: Michael

Michael — Thu, 13 Nov 2008 16:42:00 +0000

Thanks, Anon. Fixed.

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Thu, 13 Nov 2008 16:38:00 +0000

I think the tax-exempt link and the Nate Silver link are both broken.

By: Mark

Mark — Thu, 13 Nov 2008 16:21:00 +0000

What do we do now?

F I G H T .

Dan Savage put it best on SLOG:

http://slog.thestranger.com/slog/archives/2008/11/12/and_here_s_what_s_wrong_with_g

"Most gays and lesbians are content to be left to alone; many gays and lesbians go out of their way to ignore political threats and political activism and political activists."

"Most gay people grow up desperately trying to pass...We don't go looking for fights. And most gay people walk around without realizing that they've internalized the dynamics of high school hells some of us barely survived: it's better to pass, to stay out of sight, to avoid making waves, lest you attract negative attention, lest you get bashed."