Music: Katy Perry: The New Gay Interview
It’s time to call bullshit on Katy Perry. The 23 year-old Californian singer/songwriter first fell on the TNG radar with her single “UR So Gay.” The song trots out a number of tired gay stereotypes to condemn one of Perry’s ex-boyfriends and includes a paradoxical chorus of “You’re so gay, but you don’t even like boys.” Here’s a sample lyric: “I hope you hang yourself with your H&M scarf/While jacking off listening to Mozart.” Whoa, nelly!
But as much as it sucks to have a faggy boyfriend, Perry’s pretty fond of the lesbians. Or so her second single, “I Kissed a Girl,” would suggest. It’s a classic example of the “Guys kissing is gross, girls kissing is hot” line of thought, except Katy’s never actually sampled the sapphic fruits. Read all the (non)sordid details below.
The New Gay Zack: I write for a gay blog, and I thought you should know that “UR So Gay” pissed off a lot of our readers.
Katy Perry: That’s unfortunate. It’s not what I came to do, you can hear it from the horse’s mouth.
TNG: What is the song actually about?
KP: This song is about my past relationships, and how in this world of 2008 girls are thrown into a lion’s den of ‘who’s on this team and who’s on that team?” I was dating this boy who was very metrosexual, I always end up with these guys who are very sensitive and good looking and clean-cut and smell good. But this one in particular, I thought “In another life, you are a gay man.” I’ll just leave it at that.
TNG: Have you heard unfavorable reactions from other gay people?
KP: It’s not a negative connotation. It’s not “you’re so gay,” like “Your so lame,” but the fact of the matter is that this boy should’ve been gay. I totally understand how it could be misconstrued or whatever. The video we did a while ago on a budget of little to nothing, it paints that same picture. Everyone played with that Ken Doll and they were changing his outfits.
TNG: But don’t you think the whole song just falls back on a lot of stereotypes and old jokes about gay people, like every gay guy being sensitive and well dressed?
KP: No, I think that there isn’t any one type of gay person. I’ve met a ton of different gay people. I wasn’t stereotyping anyone in particular, I was talking about ex-boyfriend. All these songs are very personal, they’re straight out of a “dear diary” situation…[but] my Anne Frank is now being exposed to the world. I’m totally fine with it, I get a lot of message from girls saying “I went through the same thing.”
TNG: Do you have a gay fan base?
KP: I’m starting to. My closest friends happen to be gay… I came from a very strict household, where any of that taboo stuff was wrong. I don’t say I hate where I came from, I love my parents and was happy to… have that opportunity to grow, but I came from a strict, suppressed household where that was wrong. [Ed. Note: Katy's parents are pastors.] Now I’ve been in LA for seven years and realizing there’s nothing wrong, there’s nothing wrong with anybody. If you love someone and you’re a good person thats what counts.
TNG: But your song implies an insult. It basically says that the guy in question is less manly for being gay, that he’s wimpy. Like in the video, the Ken Doll that portrays him has no crotch.
KP: I know gay men that are more of a man than some of the men I slept with. If it came across like that I didn’t mean it. It’s kind of like Alanis Morisette’s “You Oughta Know,” that influenced me so much. I wrote about something very specific and personal to my life. People relate to songs, but this is about my one specific situation.
TNG: Have you heard from the guy you wrote it about?
KP: He’s heard it, i think he’s OK, we’re friends. It was a snapshot of an emotion and whatever I was feeling, I’m over it. I’ve moved on in life. Now I’m on to kissing girls.
TNG: I saw. Are you a lesbian now?
KP: I love my men. I’m not a lesbian, but I can appreciate the beauty of women. That’s what the song is about: me opening up a magazine and seeing Scarlet Johansen and saying “if she wanted to to kiss me I wouldn’t say no.”
TNG: Have you ever actually kissed a girl?
KP: I think I will, I’m holding out for Megan Fox.
TNG: So you haven’t actually kissed a girl. Then the whole song is a fantasy?
KP: Yeah, it’s fantasy, it’s a song about curiosity.
TNG: Isn’t that kind of like those straight girls who make out at frat parties to get guys’ attention?
KP: It’s not about that. Everyone takes the song and relates it to their situation, they can see it however they want to see it. Love it, hate it, for me it was about us girls. When we’re young we’re very touchy-feely. We have slumber party sing-alongs, we make up dance routines in our pajamas. We’re a lot more intimate in a friendship than guys can be. It’s not perverse but just sweet, thats what the song is about.
TNG: So what would happen if some hot girl ran up and kissed you after show?
KP: She would probably be catching me out of nowhere. I’m keeping my eyes open, there are girls in the crowd that are like “please,” but I say I have boyfriend. I hope he doesn’t mind it.
TNG: You’re kind of teasing these girls, then. I know a lot of lesbians who think you’re hot.
KP: Thank you, I’m glad that anyone in general thinks I’m cute. It’s a strange thing.
TNG: Do you have any more gay songs in your future?
KP: I did realize that, ironically, my first buzz song was “UR So Gay,” my first single is “I Kissed a Girl,” and record is called “One of the Boys”, so I don’t know what’s happening.
TNG: Well that’s it, thank you for answering my questions, I appreciate it.
KP: I’m happy that you heard it from the horse’s mouth. Can I say that and not sound like an idiot?
TNG: Of course. TNG
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